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	<title>Comments on: Google Wave: OpenDoc Redux</title>
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	<description>Life, the universe and web development</description>
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		<title>By: mdja</title>
		<link>http://webtorque.org/?p=611&#038;cpage=1#comment-5309</link>
		<dc:creator>mdja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shhh Jon, dont burst my argument :)  Safari also uses WebKit, so the rendering engine is the same. 

All I&#039;m really saying is they are inventing and implementing things and then post-hoc forcing them into the HTML5 standard in order to create competitive advantage for themselves.  They&#039;re not the only ones doing it, but Google have a natural (monopolistic) advantage in that they deliver both applications and the platform they run on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shhh Jon, dont burst my argument :)  Safari also uses WebKit, so the rendering engine is the same. </p>
<p>All I&#8217;m really saying is they are inventing and implementing things and then post-hoc forcing them into the HTML5 standard in order to create competitive advantage for themselves.  They&#8217;re not the only ones doing it, but Google have a natural (monopolistic) advantage in that they deliver both applications and the platform they run on.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Wave / OpenDoc / Cappuccino &#38; CP2JavaWS &#171; Cjed Audio blog</title>
		<link>http://webtorque.org/?p=611&#038;cpage=1#comment-5303</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Wave / OpenDoc / Cappuccino &#38; CP2JavaWS &#171; Cjed Audio blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google Wave: OpenDoc Redux : The overall concept often seems very similar to that of OpenDoc, back from 1992, and in the days when Microsoft was happy to work with Apple. No Gears, but impressive HTML 5&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google Wave: OpenDoc Redux : The overall concept often seems very similar to that of OpenDoc, back from 1992, and in the days when Microsoft was happy to work with Apple. No Gears, but impressive HTML 5&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://webtorque.org/?p=611&#038;cpage=1#comment-5298</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But weren&#039;t they using FF and Safari in the demo as well as Chrome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But weren&#8217;t they using FF and Safari in the demo as well as Chrome?</p>
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		<title>By: mdja</title>
		<link>http://webtorque.org/?p=611&#038;cpage=1#comment-5296</link>
		<dc:creator>mdja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on HTML5 eh... Another kick in the nuts for standards.

So they&#039;re building in a draft standard which is only significantly implemented in WebKit, which is the core rendering engine of Chrome, Google&#039;s browser.  When I say implemented, I mean that the WebKit team are implementing what they want and attempting to force the standard to fall in line.

So they&#039;re building on a nonexistent standard which works only in their proprietary browser.  Does anyone else sniff a monopoly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on HTML5 eh&#8230; Another kick in the nuts for standards.</p>
<p>So they&#8217;re building in a draft standard which is only significantly implemented in WebKit, which is the core rendering engine of Chrome, Google&#8217;s browser.  When I say implemented, I mean that the WebKit team are implementing what they want and attempting to force the standard to fall in line.</p>
<p>So they&#8217;re building on a nonexistent standard which works only in their proprietary browser.  Does anyone else sniff a monopoly?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://webtorque.org/?p=611&#038;cpage=1#comment-5293</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 21:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing: all this would start to get &lt;i&gt;even more&lt;/i&gt; interesting should Aza Raskin&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://webtorque.org/?p=332&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ideas about Ubiquity&lt;/a&gt; take hold too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing: all this would start to get <i>even more</i> interesting should Aza Raskin&#8217;s <a href="http://webtorque.org/?p=332" rel="nofollow">ideas about Ubiquity</a> take hold too.</p>
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